I -asws said...

I -asws said: \u2018Do you accept that Allah -azwj Created the creation, or does there remain in your self anything from that?\u2019 He said, \u2018I am from that, upon a limit of stopping, finishing to a matter in which the command is implemented for me\u2019.

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\n I -asws said: \u2018But, then you are refusing only for the ignorance and claiming that the things cannot be realise except by the senses, and I -asws informed you that it isn\u2019t for the senses an evidence upon the things, nor is there any recognition in it except by the heart, for it is its pointer and its understanding of the things which you claim that the heart cannot recognise these except by it (five senses)\u2019.

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\n He said, \u2018But, when you -asws speak with this, I do not accept from you -asws except with the clearance and the investigation from it, with clarification, and explanation, and an argument, and a proof\u2019.