\n Then (Imam -asws ) said...

\n Then (Imam -asws ) said: \u2018So what is the proportion of illumination of Al-Zuhra (Venus) from the moon is?\u2019 I said, \u2018This is a thing which no one knows except Allah -azwj Mighty and Majestic\u2019. He -asws said; \u2018So what is the proportion of the moon from the sun in its illumination?\u2019 I said, \u2018I do not know this\u2019. He -asws said; \u2018You speak the truth\u2019.

Then said: \u2018So what about the two armies which meet each other in accordance to this calculation, and in accordance to that calculation, and the calculator of this one calculated victory for this army, and the calculator of that one calculated victory for that army, then the two of them met, so one of them defeats the other, so now where would be the bad luck?\u2019 I said, \u2018By Allah -azwj , I do not know that\u2019. He -asws said: \u2018You speak the truth.

The origin of the calculation is true, but no one knows that except the one who knows the birth of creatures, all of them\u2019.