And from him (Al Kulyani)...
And from him (Al Kulyani), from Muhammad Bin Yahya, from Ahmad Bin Muhammad, from Ibn Mahboub, from Abu Ayoub, from Sama’at who said, ‘I asked Abu Abdullah -asws about the Words of Allah -azwj Mighty and Majestic then appoint a judge from his family and a judge from her family [4:35] , ‘Do you -asws think that the two judges are allowed, so they say to the man and the woman, ‘Have you not made both of your matters to us regarding the reconciliation and the separation?’ So, the man and the woman say, ‘Yes’.
So, both of their witnesses testify to that, is it permissible for them to affect a separation?’ He -asws said: ‘Yes, but it does not happen until the woman is clean from not having been copulated with from the spouse’. قيل له: أ رأيت إن قال أحد الحكمين: قد فرقت بينهما، و قال الآخر: لم افرق بينهما، فقال: «لا يكون تفريق حتى يجتمعا جميعا على التفريق، فإذا اجتمعا على التفريق جاز تفريقهما».
It was said to him -asws , ‘Do you -asws see that if one of the two judges were to say, ‘I have decided for the separation between the two of them’, and the other one says, ‘I do not affect a separation between the two of them?’ So, he -asws said: ‘The separate does not come about until there is consensus between the two judges upon the separation. So, if they were to coincide upon the separation, their separation is permitted’. [4] Husband refuses to divorce his wife?
عن محمد بن سيرين، عن عبيدة، قال: أتى علي بن أبي طالب (عليه السلام) رجل و امرأة مع كل واحد منهما فئام من الناس ، From Muhammad Bin Sareyr, from Ubeyda who said, ‘A man and a woman came over to Ali -asws and with each one of them was a group of people. So, Ali -asws said: ‘Send for a judge from his family and a judge from her family’. فقال علي (عليه السلام): «فابعثوا حكما من أهله، و حكما من أهلها» ثم قال للحكمين: «هل تدريان ما عليكما!
إن رأيتما أن تجمعا جمعتما، و إن رأيتما أن تفرقا فرقتما» Then he -asws said to the two judges: ‘Do you two know what is upon you (your responsibilities)? If you both view that they should be together, gather them, and if you two see that there should both separate, separate them’. فقالت المرأة: رضيت بكتاب الله علي ولي. فقال الرجل: أما في الفرقة فلا. فقال علي (عليه السلام): «ما تبرح حتى تقر بما أقرت به». So, the woman said, ‘I am pleased with the Book of Allah -azwj against me and for me’.
But the man said, ‘As for regarding the separation, so no’. So Ali -asws said: ‘You will not depart until you accept with what she has accepted with’’.